Hello Sue,
I have finally found on my External Hard drive - the New Zealand and Australian - correspondence - given to me by the Descendants of John Looney(Isabel Camaish).
Here it is -
John Looney is the one who married Isabel CAMAISH and had the land
near the Hibernian Inn opened by his son John and wife Rachel REDHEAD.
The John Looney death register transcript gives the following details-
Died 9 Sept 1872.
age -84.
Trade- farmer.
Residence- Seaview near McLaren Vale.
Cause of death- diabetes.
Place of death- Seaview.
Witness- John Morgan.
As for his first marriage, that has not yet been found- bit of a mystery.
I have wondered whether it took place off the Island .
The second marriage details-
Date- 30 June 1864.
Age -75.
Trade –Farmer.
Spouse- Sarah ALWAY( widow) 49.
Residence at time of marriage- Seaview.
Father- John LOONEY.
Father of spouse- John STRONG.
Place of marriage- House of John Morgan- Blacksmith( who was also a witness
along with Jane Morgan.).
Married by Charles GOLDSMITH.
The dates above point to this John being born around 1788 and the John born
to John and Isabel Camaish was christened 21 Sept 1788.
John and Rachel ( Redhead) also had another daughter, Isabella, who married.
her father's cousin, Joseph Looney ( son of Ewan).
Joseph & Isabella's daughter Sarah married in 1856 in IOM to William.
GOLDSMITH and their first child was born 1858 in Australia in the same.
district as John & Rachel lived.( Sarah would be their grandaughter).
So it's interesting to note the name of the marriage celebrant for John's.
marriage to Sarah Alway. It no doubt could be a connection to William.
The information of age at death for Rachel Redhead appears to be incorrect.
on 3 pieces of info' that I have-.
Rachel's death registration reads-.
Died - 25th August 1863.
Age – 88.
Wife of John Looney- farmer of McLaren Vale.
Death occurred -McLaren Vale.
Registered 27 Aug 1863- Willunga Deaths.
The age of 88 is also entered in the 'undertaker's ' burial book, of which
I have a copy.
I'm sure that age is incorrect.
Her MI gives her age as 78.
I have viewed her Christening entry which gives 11 Jan. 1789, but of course
she may have been born considerably earlier.
However I don't think it would have been 1785 as the MI would suggest as her
father's first wife would have had something to say about that !
Her parents Isaac & Mary (Kneale) were married 10 June 1789 .
John left Maughold c1839 for Australia and Rachel and their son John Joseph
had joined him there prior to 1845- possibly 1843.
These dates figured out from information contained in letters of the day.
Have you also used Frances Coakley's Manx site ? It's another wonderful
place to get lost in !
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South Adelaide, Currie-street, Jan. 10, 1840.
My Dear Sir, - Having received three communications from the Isle of Man, am much surprised that you have not written before now, however I forgive you for what is past, provided you write me now and acquaint me with the state of my affairs,- do not refuse this request. I have heard from the Island by John Looney, (Rachel's husband) from Kirk Maughold; I have also heard by Benjamin Stone, of Peel; and likewise by Mr. Primrose, of Castletown, (brewer,) who has proved a real friend to me, and has introduced me as a mechanist to three gentlemen of capital, with whom I have entered into partnership upon equal terms in the erection of saw and threshing mills, the most productive work in this colony. I take the management of the machinery part, and Mr. Richmond, from Glasgow, is the person of capital and treasurer. I receive weekly wages for subsistence, leaving a balance of £6 weekly to meet my proportion of the expense. In four months after this you shall hear more about it from me. I am living in Currie St. in my own house, as neat, clean, and comfortably furnished as any in Adelaide. I pay a ground rent for 7 years, which is the time I intend to stop here if I live, hoping by that time to have as much cash laid by as will enable me to enjoy myself wherever I may like to go.
I have had hard times, but have got over them much better than I ever expected. You can see that things now appear more prosperous. John Loooney has been working for me for some time. I wish I had my cousin John Kermode and his family, here; I could employ him at the mill, he is a stout lusty man and I require such; - he is, or rather was with Captain Bacon, when I left the Island;- his boy dan get nine shillings per;week and his meat; his wife, can earn for washing, 3s. 6d. per week and her meat ; little girls for nursing, from 2s. to 3s. 6d. per ,week. John himself can get, two guineas per week without meat. If he likes to come I will do what I can for him. If uncle Edward (his father, ) will give him £50 to get clothing. and help to build his house, he can never do better. I do not wish to entice any one to come here, but a steady. sober, and industrious man will do well, and none else. Many persons go the bad way in this place through drink and idle company. Gentlemen are of no use here
except for what money they spend. Many shoot themselves after coming here. Mr. Ormerod's son is here, young Mr. Fleetwood has gone away ; Mr. Kelly the sadler's son, is here, doing very well; Dan, Clucas from Port-le-Murray, is here; William Wilson, nephew of Philly Stephen, is here; Corkhills's son of Begoade, was here - he is a baker, and has left.
I remain, dear Sir, yours truely.
Thomas Cain.
Averil