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Re: 1901 census
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Hi Colin,

William James son of John Kelly & Alice Kerruish was bapt at the Dhoon Church, Maughold, on 9 May 1875.

These are not my relatives - in that message you saw I was just helping out.
However, I do have transcripts of the original Maughold parish register, made by Tom Corteen (a cousin) who lived in Maughold.

This is their marriage record:
29 Jun 1871
John KELLY, Full age, Bachelor, Farmer, Skinscoe, Lonan, [father] Robert Kelly, Farmer, and
Alice Jane KERRUISH, Full age, Spinster, Cooil-Ard, Maughold, John Kerruish, Farmer.

The two place names were the names of the farms they came from.

As you can see, this records John Kelly as coming from Lonan, and Alice Jane Kerruish from Maughold, yet the 1881 census has their birth places the other way around.

The 1881 census (Familysearch.org) has:
John R. KELLY Head M Male 42 Maughold, Isle of Man, Lead Miner
Alice KELLY Wife M Female 27 Lonan, Isle of Man
Jane KELLY Daur Female 10 Maughold, Isle of Man Scholar
John R. KELLY Son Male 8 Maughold, Isle of Man Scholar
William J. KELLY Son Male 5 Maughold, Isle of Man Scholar
Joseph KELLY Son Male 2 Lonan, Isle of Man
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Source Information:
Dwelling Ballachrink Cott
Census Place Lonan, Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Family History Library Film 1342346
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5601 / 50
Page Number 15

John Robert the son of John Robert Kelly & Alice Jane was bapt in Maughold Parish Church on 11 Aug 1872.
Jane was baptised as the Illegit daur of Alice Jane Kerruish at Dhoon Church on 21 Mar 1870.

According to extracted birth entries on the IGI (from civil registration), all the younger children were registered in Lonan:
Joseph Henry Kelly Birth: 09 JUN 1878 Ballachrink, Lonan, Isle Of Man
Edward Arthur Kelly Birth: 22 JUL 1881 Ballachrink, Lonan, Isle Of Man
Eleanor Margaret Kelly Birth: 28 DEC 1883 Ballachrink, Lonan, Isle Of Man
Alice Gertrude Kelly Birth: 17 OCT 1886 Ballachrink, Lonan, Isle Of Man
Benjamin Kerruish Kelly Birth: 12 APR 1888 Ballaraugh, Lonan, Isle Of Man

Civil birth registration didn't start in the IOM until 1878.

The IGI extracted record (from the parish register) has ALICE JANE KERRUISH
Christening: 20 NOV 1853 Lonan, Father: JOHN KERRUISH, Mother: ALICE KERMEEN.

So that 1911 census entry you spotted does indeed look like the same John Robert Kelly, widowed father of Eleanor Margaret Kinvig - what good luck that his details were filled in (then crossed out). His eight children are written above, and at aged 73 in 1911 he does look like John Robt bapt Maughold 15 July 1838 son of Robt KELLY & Elinr KNEALE.
He had put back his marriage date by a year, probably to legitimise his eldest daughter.

The 1841 Maughold census has:
3 15 59 Doon
Robert KELLY 30 Lab Isle of Man
Eleanor KELLY 30 Isle of Man
Ann KELLY 5 Isle of Man
John KELLY 2 Isle of Man
Joseph KELLY 1 m Isle of Man

These are the Maughold bapts for their children:

James [son of] Robert Kelly/ Elenor Kneale [bapt] Parish Church 5 Jan 1840
William Henry Robert Kelly/ Elenor Kneale Parish Church 17 Mar 1850
John Robert Robert Kelly/ Elinor Kneale Parish Church 15 Jul 1838
Elizabeth Robert Kelly/ Elinor Kneale Parish Church 26 Feb 1843
Elinor Robert Kelly/ Elinor Kneale Parish Church 30 Mar 1845
Rebecca Robert Kelly/ Elinor Kneale Parish Church 30 Sep 1853. 6 years of age.

1851 census Household transcription from Findmypast:
Name Relation Condition Se x Age BirthYear Occupation Where Born
KELLY, Robert Head Married M 44 1807 Proprr Farming 54 Acres Maughold
KELLY, Eleanor Wife Married F 42 1809 Lonan
KELLY, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836 Employed At Home Maughold
KELLY, John Son M 12 1839 Scholar Maughold
KELLY, Joseph Son M 9 1842 Scholar Maughold
KELLY, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1844 Scholar Maughold
KELLY, Elenor Daughter F 5 1846 Maughold
KELLY, Rebecca Daughter F 3 1848 Maughold
KELLY, William H Son M 1 1850 Maughold
KELLY, Thomas Father Married M 76 1775 Proprietor Of Lands Ballaugh
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RG number:HO107 Piece:2524 Folio:
296 Page:14
Enumeration District:3
Civil Parish:Maughold Municipal Borough:
Address:
Dhoon, Maughold Isle of Man

So Robert b.c.1807 was the son of Thomas Kelly b.Ballaugh

There was a Robert bapt Maughold 11 May 1806 son of Thomas Kelly and Ann Hogg, so I'll have to double-check that "Ballaugh" and see what else I can find.

Sue