Thanks for that info. I knew Herbert md an Eleanor (Nelly) nee ? but don't Know when or why she went to USA. I think she & Herbert had at least one child but I haven't found out much about his life after the 1901 census when he still lived at home aged 20. She must have gone after he was killed in action. He had a brother John who also fought in WW1. I think John survived but there were so many John Kinvigs .