LOL Sue, you are so far ahead of me, my head is spinning around! I'm still trying to locate the original for blind John Quayle and John Thomas Radcliffe on the farm in 1871.. ancestry.com either does not have the listing or I'm not searching the right terms.. equally blank on the 1861 so far, except I did find out how important it was that the many Radcliffes provided their town of birth on the census. L>