Hello again Wallace,
The brother 'Herb' you mention,could he be
Herbert Ambrose Craine aged 7 yrs on the 1891 Census (son), and aged 17yrs on the 1901 census (lead mine washer)son.
By 1901 there were Elinor Craine widow aged 57yrs,John Thomas Hinds aged 25yrs and Edward Jos/Jas Hinds aged 22yrs along with Herbert,all living in Foxdale,and working in Foxdale Mines.
My interest is Elinor Clucas and William Craine.
so there is a connection through Elinor.to your Manx branch.
Not proven at this point in time information as follows,Elinor Clucas was the daughter of Leece Clucas and Jane Kelly of Peel.