Dear Mr. Creer,
I have E-mailed the CAIN family descendant, and told him the whole jest of what is required, and that my brother DOES NOT QUALIFY due to my grandmother being in the line, I did go back to RORY CAIN'S E-MAIL and he stated I COULD USE MY BROTHER, that was a few years back, so I am confused, the CAIN THAT HAD THE IRISH MARKERS was not our CAIN, but the PATRICK's, TWO IN THIS AREA, ONE MARRIED A SUSANNAH CRAWFORD, one a MOLLY GRIFFITH, he was IRISH, and we at the beginning thought he was our PATRICK; but WAS NOT, BUT our PATRICK did come into a SCOT-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN AUGUSTA COUNTY, VA, but we have data.BY THE BIBLE, THOUGH, that our PATRICK CAIN was MANX, so the BIBLE would truly and the DNA SOLVE this DELIMA, and word of mouth through family members stated PATRICK WAS OFF THE ISLE, and his SISTER and FATHER, there was NO MOTHER, when they came here, the father is buried in BARNWELL DISTRICT PATRICK CAIN SR, AND PATRICK CAIN JR,, AND ALICE,CALL ALCEE, DAUGHTER, CELIA, PATRICK killed by the TORIES is buried under a tree at WINDY HILL, in BLACKVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, USA, so in FRANCES' study, under ADAM CAIN, THE BALLAUGH MARRIAGE RECORDS are NOT THERE, so under her two ADAM CAINS', OURS AND HERS, BOTH OF THE SONS' she stated died on the Isle of MAN,but one PATRICK was not accounted for, did leave, and his inheritance was waitng at his return, I think that is our PATRICK,, HERE ARE ALL OUR PATRICKS IN OUR LINE;
Patrick CAIN, MARCH 22,1616
Patrick CAIN; JULY 17, 1712( Frances states died by Parish Records on Isle of MAN)
Patrick CAIN:JUNE 23 1737( killed by the TORIES)
Patrick CAIN; grandson of ANNE CORLETT, we have NO DATA on him either, in her will she list him as her grandson, PATRICK CAIN GRANDSON, and PATRICK CAIN HER SON( we have nothing on this Patrick either) AND SHE MADE HIM HER EXECUTOR, AND ANN CAINE, ( apparently a widow)notice the E, perhaps a child of another marriage, we have no knowledge of the grandson, which perhaps that is our PATRICK, for it seems there is no data on him , MRS. COAKLEY,did come UP with A ILLIGETIMATE PATRICK CAIN, so we have three, that we really don't have much on,but by our records IT APPEARS THAT THE PATRICK CAIN, NOT THE ONE IRISH, THE OTHER was our CAIN, I am still going out to the village this week end to try and find the BIBLE, have been researching for it for quite some time, still NO ONE has come up with it. I have tirelessly even in the time off the board tried to find data, data I have found, but had genealogist work on this,CORLISS CAME INTO THE PICTURE ON THAT STUDY, also, I do HOPE THIS DESCENDANT WILL want to give his DNA, and perhaps we can get closure, I DO NOTICE, you put nothing about ROMAN INVASION AND THE BOOKS I have on the ISLE, would truly show many mixtures of races on the ISLE alone by sea travel and conquering, so really the NORSEMEN, was who my GRANDMOTHER,SEEM TO BE IN ALL ASPECTS, she spoke a language,we never understood, the word CAIRN, she used, which meant, she once said, a horrible smell, also BLACKYARD,which she did tell us that was cursing, she also read the cards, she had no CHRISTIAN FAITH, she never talked about GOD, she was into the OCCULT, she read the cards and told you about many aspects of your life, she never allowed us to touch the cards, she was as stated very strict and stauch and disciplined and proper, she was blue-eyed and strawberry red hair, my daughter, tall, big boned, blue-green eyes, red hair, a throw back on the genes, the only redhaired child in family, blonde and blue - green eyes, not hazel, blue-green, beautiful eyes,like mine, brother and sister, blue-green eyes my brother, other have dark skin, my mother had IRISH in her family MORRIS, and CROFT, so ENGLISH ON THE CROFT, MORRIS, IRISH, but even so, I must REVERENCE THE BIBLE AND FRANK'S WORK AND MINE, and many others, so perhaps the DNA , is the the only way, I will have further contact this weeK end IF THE ELDERLY LADIES will let me come, they are quite private, I have not ever seen them, and don't think many have, they are recluses. The CAINS ARE NOT FRIENDLLY PEOPLE not our CLAN, they are very private, very principaled, not sociable, my grandmother, was one stauch person, and the older ones never spoke, that just sit, in the parlor, we had no connections emotionally with those, only my grandmother, but she too was not a person to be touchy feely, she was of a nature of, you had a place in the line and not to be crossed, she turned white hair overnight, very early as, we all have, premature white, hair,thick heads of hair, except my brother, younger, went bald early and my father, I WAS TOLD I AM THE IMAGE OF HELEN CAIN, my daughter is already white and my son, they are in their late thirties, white, not gray, white as snow, I used to dye my hair, but now have let it go white, and very thick,i have green-blue eyes, and blonde hair, as a child, I am the only really social butterfly, in the family, my brothers, even the deceased one, was private, my father ran a business for 35 years, he was a buisness man, not a friend, to his cusomers, he did not socialize with his patrons, and his mother and my aunt, the same, only family, no outsiders, I have give more than enpugh, but it helps to know verbal history as well as document history, and BIBLE and now DNA, perhaps, the SAGA will end somewhere here on the pages of the MANX GENEALOGY BOARD. Where I found by accident, trying to find a site to find my CORLETT SIDE, never my CAIN'S, I THOUGHT SINCERELY THAT SIDE WAS DONE. So we know the PARISH records at BALLAUGH FOR MARRIAGES are not there, I still think ADAM AND ANN CORLETT WAS A SECOND MARRIAGE, for ADAM, I believe ANNE died and ADAM remarried the STOEN lady, and that there were two sets of children, because MARGARET CAINE, WITH AN (E) AND SHE MARRIED A QUIGGIN AND THEN JONEY CAIN, AND ELNOR CAIN, AND PATRICK CAIN, DO NOT HAVE THE (E) AND THEY I BELIEVE MARGARET AND JOHN WERE THE CHILDREN OF A 1ST MARRIAGE TO ADAM OR BROTHER OF ADAM, HE HAD A BROTHER JOHN, and on PATRICK'S LINE HE HAD MARGARET AND JOHN AFTER ANNE CORLETT'S DEATH. So it seems to come together that way. Sorry to be winded, may be dealing to set's of CAIN/E'S, . which I have always thought to be true AND TWO DNA LINES, so this is why I had to do all the explaining on ADAM CAIN/E!!!
Kindly yours,
Mrs,Jonnie CAIN Rosa