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Re: MI Emily Keig/Edward Keig
In Response To: Re: MI Emily Keig/Edward Keig ()

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Your initial query has thrown up some very intriguing puzzles ! So was Isabella b circa 1779 the mother or the grandmother of Edward Keig b 1828 ?

The only Isabella Kegg of the right age in Brian's census indexes for 1841 and 1851 ( I'm pasting in a block of entries to show that there were no others listed, and Brian's indexes are very reliable):

1841
KEIG Esther 7 mos Rus 1465/12 28 18
KEIGG Isabella 70 Lez 1464/1 55 4
KEIG James 30 Rus 1465/12 10 13

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1851
KEIG Henry L. 1 Lez 2524 205 52
KEGG Isabella 66 Lez 2524 228 27
KEIG Isabella 4 Rus 2526 265 83

1841
Lezayre 5/2
Trinity Cladagh
Isabla Keigg 70
Robt 15 ag lab
Ned 15 ag lab

1851
(indexed by Ancestry as REGG)
Lezayre 5/7
Sulby Cladagh
Isabella Kegg head wid 66 school mistress b Ballaugh
Robert son unm 26 farm labourer b Lezayre
Thomas grson 13 b Lezayre

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1861
Conchan 1b/44
St Georges Terr

Edward Keig 32 joiner b Sulby
Emily 30 b Braddan
Isabella gma 80 b Lezayre
Isabella dau 2 b Douglas
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The only Isabella Keig who could be the right one from the burial index:
KEGG, Isabella 82 Bra 25 Sep 1861

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Edward's extracted Ballaugh baptism from the IGI (probably a late baptism when he was at least 2 yrs old, and in Ballaugh rather than in his birth parish of Lezayre---he gives his place of birth as Sulby in the censuses)

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EDWARD KEGG Pedigree
Male

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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 FEB 1830 Ballaugh, Isle Of Man, England

Death:
Burial:

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Parents:
Father: JAMES KEGG Family
Mother: ISABELLA KISSACK

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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The IGI shows that Edward was the youngest of the children of James Keig and Isabella Kissack, who married 21 Dec 1802 Lezayre. Edward was born right at the end of his mother's childbearing years; she would have been late forties.

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1. ISABELLA KEIGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 MAR 1806 Lezayre, Isle Of Man, England

2. ELIZABETH KEIGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 MAR 1806 Lezayre, Isle Of Man, England

3. ANN KEIG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Death: 30 NOV 1815

4. ANN KEIG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 12 NOV 1815 Ballaugh, Isle Of Man, England

5. WM KEIG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 14 JUN 1812 Ballaugh, Isle Of Man, England

6. ROBERT KEGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 MAR 1824 Ballaugh, Isle Of Man, England

7. EDWARD KEGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 FEB 1830 Ballaugh, Isle Of Man, England

8. JAMES KEIG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 MAY 1820 Ballaugh, Isle Of Man, England

9. JANE KEIG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 SEP 1809 Ballaugh, Isle Of Man, England

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Edward was over on the mainland in 1851:

1851
(indexed Edwd Keig)
Lancashire, Toxteth Park 1m/19
50 Stanhope St
William Haniford head mar 28 mariner sailor b Dartmouth
Ann Jane wife 24 b LP
Margt Jane dau 2 b LP
James Johnstone father in law mar 64 journeyman ship rigger b Denmark Brit Subj
Margaret Johnstone mother in law 62 b IOM Sulby
Thomas Cain nephew 16 apprentice to carpenter b Douglas
William Dawbow ? lodger unm 20 apprentice to joiner b LP
Charlotte Comish visitor mar 27 (can't read) b Exeter St Thomas
Edwd Keig lodger unm 22 journeyman joiner b IOM Sulby
Thomas Quayle lodger unm 36 mariner sailor b Sulby
Danl McGregor lodger unm 24 mariner sailor b Scotland
Mary O'Hare serv 14 b LP
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The Robert Kegg in both 1841 and 1851 households, age 15 and 26, plus the fact that both censuses show them living in the same place, demonstrates that Isabella was Robert's mother (so the son bap 1824 Ballaugh). The age of 66 in 1851 was a bit of wishful thinking, and the age of 70 in 1841 was probably supplied by someone who guessed wrongly. And Ned's age given as 15 in 1841 wasn't too far out.

For my money, the MI is correct in stating that Edward was Isabella's son, not grandson. The relationship of Isabella to Edward of "grandmother" written in 1861 was probably a mistake on the part of the enumerator who may have found it difficult to imagine that this old woman could be Edward's mother. Or else he erroneously recorded the relationship of Isabella to the 2yr old child in the household.

Jean C