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Re: Alice Coulthard b.IOM
In Response To: Re: Alice Coulthard b.IOM ()

Geraldine, have you seen this baptism ?

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copied from the IGI:

MARGARET GUY Pedigree
Female

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Event(s):
Birth: 21 OCT 1807

Christening: 01 NOV 1807 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Death:
Burial:

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Parents:
Father: JOHN GUY Family
Mother: JANE ROBINSON

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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This would fit the Margaret who married James Coulthard in 1829. In 1841, Margaret stated that she was born in Lancashire, unlike her husband and son who were both "N"--not born in Lancashire. But in 1851 her birthplace is stated as being the same as that of her husband and son ie Cockermouth.

Is it possible that Jane Robinson thought that she was married to John Guy when Margaret was born in 1807, but subsequently discovered that he was already married to someone else ? Or maybe there was some other reason for calling herself Jane Robinson in 1841 and 1851. Or maybe this is just a coincidence and this isn't the Margaret Guy who married James Coulthard in 1829.

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1841
Lancashire, Childwall, Wavertree 6/3

Ancestry's transcription:

1841 England Census
about James Coulthard
Name: James Coulthard
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Childwall
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Wavertree
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Coulthard 35
Margaret Coulthard 30
William Coulthard 11

James is a gardener N
Mgt Y
William N

then below that, in same building:

Jane Robinson 68 FS N
Catherine Preston 45 FS N
John Williams 30 builder N
Joseph Robinson 30 MS Y

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Then the entry you've seen in 1851:

1851 England Census
about James Coulthard
Name: James Coulthard
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret Coulthard
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Allerton
Ecclesiastical parish: Aigburth St Ann
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
James Coulthard 45
Margaret Coulthard 43
William Coulthard 21
Jame Robinson 77
Alice Coulthard 81
Jane Morgan 23
James Harrison 14
Bobert Currine 73

James 45 lab b Cockermouth
Margaret 43 Cockermouth
William 21 Cockermouth
Jane Robinson 77 wife's mother b Westmoreland
Alice 81 husband's mother b IOM
Jane 23 and James 14, servants
Robert Currine 73 lodger wid cabinet maker b IOM

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Jean C