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Re: Adam Caine
In Response To: Re: Adam Caine ()

Dear Mrs. Coakley,

Could you please expand on their twins, of PATRICK AND PHILIP? Our Patrick also had a twin, Philip died and was buried at Ballaugh Parish, and Patrick married Elinor Clarke, which you have that data under our ADAM, now under this ADAM who married Elinor STEPHAN, or ELLEN STEPHAN, I don't see any acknowlegement of the twins, which the data you sent to me in past which I have printed shows you have them with the same twins, if you remember correctly. So where is their PATRICK AND PHILIP? Twins, of that ADAM CAIN, we already have our PATRICK AND PHILIP born on JULY 17,1712, PHILIP DYING OF SMALL POX, in 1713, as you have them,also in your last e-mail under the website of Caines of Knockkan in Ballaugh, so where is the date of birth of the twins under this ADAM CAINE MARRIED TO ELINOR STOEN, STEPHAN, there is two ADAM CAINES, YOU STATE, and the land is well documented you state on both, then the children should be well documented too, we have our twins.

Remember the statement of our ADAM being of BISHOP'S DIMENSE and I stated NO he was not,they held BALLACAIN, and the surrounding area . So we must now find your twins, which I went to the web site you gave and I see the notes of ADAM CAINE TO ELINOR, ELLEN STEPHAN, but where are the twins, you state came off this marriage in the beginning and that our twins were not off our marriage of our ADAM CAINE.

So. may I please have documentation of the twins of your marriage to ADAM CAINE TO ELINOR STEPHAN.

MARGARET as stated when looking at papers was NOT Patrick's child or JOHN they were foster children, possibly of John, but Margaret was born November 14, 1709 in KK Ballaugh Parish, (baptismal date) married a JOHN QUGGIN on October 6 1737 in KK GERMAN, ..

Anne Corlett born October 02, 1681 in KK Ballaugh Parish, (baptismal date) died Setember 12, 1738 in KK Michael, , ADAM CAINE BORN MARCH 15, 1669 IN KK MICHAEL, (baptismal record)

His brother was PATRICK CAINE, BORN AUGUST 7, 1672 IN KK MICAHEL(baptismal date)

Children of ADAM CAINE AND ANNE CORLETT

1.John Caine born Februaary 27 1703 in KK Michael (baptismal date), married ANN CARRAN

2. MARGARET CAINE born November 14, 1709 in KK BALLAUGH parish(baptismal date) married JOHN QUGGIN, October 6 1737 in KK GERMAN,

3. PATRICK CAINE, born July 17, 1712 in KK Ballaugh Parish, (baptismal date) died in BARNWELL DISTRICT, HEALING SPRINGS,married ELLINOR CLARKE , February, 11, 1736, THIS IS THE SAME DATA YOU PROVIDED , WHICH WE ALREADY HAD AND I GAVE ON THE BOARD IN 2005,I believe was the year I posted the whole TREE.

4. PHILIP CAINE, born JULY 17,1712 IN KK BALLAUGH PARISH, twin of PATRICK , died in infancy (baptismal date)

5. ELLINOR CAINE born March 25, 1713 in KK MICHAEL Parish (baptismal date)

6. JONEY CAINE born 1715

These are the children of ADAM CAINE AND ANNE CORLETT.

The children of PATRICK CAINE AND ELINOR CLARKE:

1. PATRICK CAINE JR.born June 23, 1737, in KK MICHAEL, ISLE OF MAN, (baptismal date) died August 1781 in the AMERICAN REVOLUTION WAR, KILLED BY THE TORIES, MARRIED MARY GRIFFITH IN ANSON COUNTY , NORTH CAROLINA, AMERICA

I want to make a note of clarification here, you do not have a PATRICK JR, in your data on the children of PATRICK CAINE AND ELINOR CLARKE you have two children only JONEY AND ALICE, which we have JONEY AND ALICE TOO, but you do not have PATRICK JR.

As stated MARGARET AND JOHN WERE FOSTER CHILDREN, when goiing back I found the data, the only children that PATRICK AND ELINOR CAINE HAD WERE THE 4 children, PATRICK JR, JONEY, ELINOR and ALICE.

I gave all this data in 2005 I believe that was the year, I gave the whole TREE on the board, go back and see the post. The only data I did not give was that of the foster children, which were JOHN'S, not PATRICK'S AND ELINOR'S, so you do not have PATRICK JR. or ELINOR in your data of the marriage of PATRICK CAINE TO ELEANOR CLARKE, AND YOU HAVE PATRICK (WOULD APPEAR) not sure, married a second time to an ISABLEL KELLY, which we have our PATRICK AND ELINOR, which we did not know what happened to her, but PATRICK AND ALICE, in AUGUSTA COUNTY , VA, in March 11, 1746, soon after ALICE was born, for ALICE was born in September 2, 1746, so PATRICK must have left not long after her birth, ALICE married NATHANIEL WALKER, a surveyor, in WAXHAW SETTLEMENT IN NORTH CAROLINA, and then they came to SOUTH CAROLINA, and HEALIIN SPRINGS, AND WALKER'S STATION AND BUILT THE BAPTIST CHURCH, I have forwarded all this material to you home post and you have the books and web site to go to show the documentation of our ALICE AND NATHANEIL WALKER, so I do not have to go down that road again.

Well ,I have shown our PATRICK SR. AND PATRICK JR, data all I posted way back in 2005 I believe, that was the year, because I had to learn to share, because I was not a sharer, I have now shared and shared, and shared, so I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE IT RIGHT WITH OUR JOHN CAINE IN 2003.

I will not post on this line again, I will now go to the ANNE CORLETT SIDE, where we have only her birth and marriage and parents name, her father being THOMAS CORLETT. AND ELINOR CLARKE, being the daughter of PAT CLARKE AND KATH GAWN, this is where I shall head with the new researcher, PATRICK, TO ME, IS RESOLVED.

Kindly yours,

Mrs. Rosa