Thank you ever so much JC for your help. I'll have to show my lack of knowledge as a novice to geneology & ask what patron submission means. I was sad reading all the babies who had died for John Kelly. I'll be on the IOM in Sept so I shall definitely be visiting the Malew graves & remembering them all. As my sister confused me by saying that there were 2 families of painters in C'town with boys called John & James I must try to verify that the grandparents of my own grandfather James Philip Archibald Kelly b1885 were John Kelly & his 2 wives, Ann & Jane. Thanks again KayN