I seem to have dug a deeper hole for myself, deep enough to bury me!! Lol. Thank you (again) Sylvia and Frances. I had concluded that the Handley boys were not my Marys, as her first born in Australia was in 1861, and then she went on to produce eight more, without any record of marriage (another drawback to get names). Shipping lists do have names of Downey and McCart but the dates don't fit in, and there is no proof to connect them to anywhere or anyone. After 35 years of searching, my Mary (or Rose) is determined to elude me