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Re: Edward Christian, Ballabeg, Bride

Hi Margaret

The following records show that Margaret Sayle and Margaret Kaneen were likely to have been the same person.

IGI:

Name: Edward Christian
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Feb 1868
Event Place: Bride, Isle of Man
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Wm Christian
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name: Margt Kaneen
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father's Name: John Kaneen
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Digital Folder Number: 004504993
Image Number: 00059

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These two versions of Edward Christian’s baptism show the mother to be listed as Margaret Sayle and as Margaret Kaneen:

Name: Edward Christian
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 Jul 1872
Christening Place: BRIDE,ISLE OF MAN,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Edward Christian
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margt Sayle
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03816-1
System Origin: Isle_Of_Man-ODM
GS Film number: 106713
Reference ID:

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Name: Ernest Edward Christian
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 Jul 1872
Christening Place: BRIDE,ISLE OF MAN,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Edward Christian
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Kaneen
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03816-1
System Origin: Isle_Of_Man-ODM
GS Film number: 106713
Reference ID:

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This is the most likely baptism of Margaret:

Name: Margt Kaneen
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 29 Jun 1839
Christening Place: BRIDE,ISLE OF MAN,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Kaneen
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Isabella Cowin
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03816-1
System Origin: Isle_Of_Man-ODM
GS Film number: 106713
Reference ID:

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This is likely to be Margaret’s family in 1841:

1841
Bride

Ancestry’s transription (Kanun should be Kaneen):
Name Age
John Kanun 44
Isabella Kanun 40
John Kanun 15
Thos Kanun 13
William Kanun 9
Anna Kanun 7
Catherine Kanun 2

2 year old Margaret wasn’t with the family, but she may be the 2 year old 3 pages further on with a John Christian age 75 ---- Ancestry lists her as Margaret Kammer but Brian Lawson indexed her as:

KANNAN Margaret 2 Bride 1463/6 24 17

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This Kaneen family seems to disappear after 1841 and I’m wondering whether they could have emigrated, leaving Margaret behind, possibly in the care of a family called Sayle (ie Margaret could have been known as Margaret Sayle prior to her marriage in 1868)

There’s a tree on Ancestry which is compiled by a great granddaughter of a John Arthur Kaneen b 1859 Prince Edward Island, Canada. JAK was the son of a John Kaneen b circa 1825 Isle of Man. If you look at immigration records (my subscription isn’t good enough) you might find that this John Kaneen was the same person as the JK age 15 in 1841 above, and that maybe he emigrated with all his family bar little Margaret.

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This may be Margaret in 1851, entered as Kneen by mistake----there’s no matching Margaret Kneen age 1 in the 1841 index):

1851
Bride 2/3
2524 137
Ancestry’s transcription (Sagle should be Sayle)

Name Age
Thomas Sagle 60
Isabella Sagle 52
Ann Sagle 6
Sophia Sagle 2
Margaret Kneen 11
John Gawne 30
James Looney 20

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Just speculation, but I hope it helps.

Jean C