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Re: Shimmins of Malew
In Response To: Shimmins of Malew ()

Hi Desmond

I have a strong suspicion that you've gone wrong somewhere, so this is what I make of it (copying from the IGI, Brian Lawson's indexes, and Ancestry):

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FRANCIS NEAH SHIMMIN Pedigree
Male

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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 12 OCT 1851 Saint Barnabas, Douglas, Isle Of Man, England

Death:
Burial:

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Parents:
Father: JAMES SHIMMIN Family
Mother: JANE

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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children of James Shimmin and Jane McNeil:

1. AMELIA SHIMMIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 NOV 1847 St Matt, Douglas, Isle Of Man, England

2. WALTER SHIMMIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 DEC 1854 Saint George, Douglas, Isle Of Man, England

3. GEORGE WILSON SHIMMON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 JAN 1850 Saint Barnabas, Douglas, Isle Of Man, England

4. ISAAC SHIMMIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 DEC 1856 Saint Barnabas, Douglas, Isle Of Man, England

5. JAMES WILLIAM SHIMMIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 FEB 1845 Saint Marys, Castletown, Isle Of Man, England

6. CHRISTIAN SHIMMIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 01 FEB 1846 Saint Marys, Castletown, Isle Of Man, England

7. FRANCIS NEAH SHIMMIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 OCT 1851 Saint Barnabas, Douglas, Isle Of Man, England

8. ANN JANE SHEMMIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 APR 1858 Saint Barnabas, Douglas, Isle Of Man, England

9. ALFRED ALESTER SHIMMIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 26 JUN 1853 Saint Mathews, Douglas, Isle Of Man, England

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JAMES SHIMMIN Pedigree
Male Family

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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

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Marriages:
Spouse: JANE MC NEELL Family
Marriage: 17 JUL 1844 Braddan, Isle Of Man, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Now, trying to find James and Jane's likely birth years fron census entries:

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1841

MC NEIL Jane 23 Douglas 1465/3 6 5

Servant in Douglas, "not born IOM", no country specified.

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1851

SHIMMIN Jane 28 Douglas 2525 234 145

Name Age
James Shimmin 26
Jane Shimmin 28
James Shimmin 6
Christian Shimmin 5
Amelia Shimmin 3
George W Shimmin 1

James cordwainer b Malew
Jane bootbinder b IOM St Anne ?
Jas+Christian b CT
Amelia+Geo b Douglas

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1861
3 North John St

Name Age
James Shimmin 38
Jane Shimmin 38
James Shimmin 16
Christian Shimmin 15
Amelia Shimmin 12
George Shimmin 11
Frank Shimmin 9
Walter Shimmin 5

Jas sr boot+shoe maker b Malew
Jane b Kk Santon
Jas jr +Chr b CT
younger chn b Douglas

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1871
Braddan F 4a/36

Name Age
James Shimmin 49
Frank Shimmin 19
Walter Shimmin 15

Jas mar shoemaker
Frank painter
Walter shoemaker
all b Malew

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looking for James Shimmin in 1841:

SHIMMIN James 40 Rushen 1465/11 26 18
SHIMMIN James 30 Braddan 1463/5 48 2
SHIMMIN James 15 Santon 1463/2 17 9
SHIMMIN James 10 Onchan 1465/1 33 25

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The 15 yr old in Santon is the only one in the right age range.

This is Ancestry's transcription of Ballavartin:

1841

Name Age
John Gick 60
Eleanor Gick 60
Thomas Gick 30
James Gick 5
Eleanor Gick 5
James Simmon 45
Wm Christian 15
Margt Shimmin 10
Esther Green 22
William Grun 4

The Gicks are a farming family.

"James Simmon" is a mistranscription of James Shimmin. His age is actually 15, not 45. He's an apprentice shoemaker.
WC+MS are servants.

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This is the only James Shimmin baptism in the IGI in Malew in the correct time period:

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JAMES SHIMMIN Pedigree
Male

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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 04 MAY 1823 Malew, Isle Of Man, England

Death:
Burial:

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Parents:
Father: ROBT SHIMMIN Family
Mother: ANN KENNIAGH

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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The children of Robert Shimmin and Annie Kennaugh were born between 1802 ? and 1825 (married 1801 Malew ? patron submission).

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The Robert Shimmin who was the son of Thomas Shimmin and Ann Holmes is this one:

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ROBT SHIMMIN Pedigree
Male

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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 28 FEB 1796 Malew, Isle Of Man, England

Death:
Burial:

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Parents:
Father: THOS SHIMMIN Family
Mother: ANN HOLMES

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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Robert Shimmin b 1796, son of Thos Shimmin and Ann Holmes, was way too young to be starting a family in 1802 with Ann Kennaugh ( ! ) , and in fact, he married Margaret Crebbin in 1821, and then Ann Kelly in 1837 --- he was a ropemaker. This is him, below:

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1841
Malew 2a/6
Malew St
Thomas Shimmin 76 tailor Y
Anne 70 Y
Anne/Annie 20 Y
Ellen Holmes 40 Y
Ellen Hamilton 12
John Shimmin 14 E

single slash

Robert 45 rope M Y
Anne 30 Y
Robert 15 tailor ap Y
Christian 10 Y
Thomas 10 Y

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Now, looking for Robert Shimmin, husband of Ann Kennaugh, in 1841, if he was still alive:

Brian Lawson has this as:
SHIMMIN Robert 67 Malew 1464/4 34 10

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In fact, the age looks more like 47. This is Ancestry's version:

1841

Name Age
Robt Shimin 47
Cathrin Shimin 45
John Shimin 18
Margret Shimin 12
Ann Collister 80
Jas Mimmish 20
Ann Mimmish 24
Margret Mimmish 9 MO

WRONG FAMILY
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I can't see a likely candidate in 1841, so I wonder whether this was his burial:

SHIMMIN, Robert 60 Malew 11 Dec 1837

Donna, please would you see if there's an MI.

Thank you.

Jean C