This is great getting all this help with John Kinvig. How do I obtain this deeper info?. I use iomfhs ; manxbmd.com and isle of man geneology sites but the years are only over a certain stretch of time. There were so many John, James in my Kelly/Kinvig research. I'm a new member to iomfhs. I'm thinking of buying the MI and BR publications - are they really useful and with legible writing? Thanks again