I heard from other source that Told me that John Patrick died in Grayson Virginia but born in New River Va , Lawrence Died in 1761 in New River Va he was born 1727 Isle of Man at that time the british were taking land from who ever they wanted to it was customary to send your youngest child to leave they had better chance of survival , this story is sad , There were lots of Kelly's from Isle of Man for sure , but I guess I will pay ancestry.com today and keep looking there , I am also looking at www.newrivernotes.com , I promise I am going to Ireland in Sept this year with friends and I will find out grandfathers parents if I dont before I get there , The Manx society I have checked so many listing they have that so locked up , if I find something will let you know My son Jeremy and I are just dying to find all this out ! Happy Hunting to Bobbie , Glad to know another Kelly , Bet Lawrence would get a kick out of all this attention lol !