Atholl Papers Bundle AP_X27

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AP_X27_1
13.1.1754
G.Griffith to Harrison re a complaint from the fishermen of Whitehaven about ill-treatment by Manx fishermen,and enclosing a copy of the petition which they have sent to London (see AP_X27_2). Offers his services to try and arrange a settlement,and hopes the Duke will give the orders which will enable him to do so.
AP_X27_2
Petition from the Fishery chamber of Whitehaven to the Society of the Free British Fishery (London) (Copy) Complains that four busses of Whitehaven,while fishing for herrings about seven miles off Langness,were surrounded by about a hundred Manx boats with six or seven men in each all armed with axes,clubs etc. These men threatened them,saying that no one might fish there who did not pay dues to the Lord of Mann and submit to all his laws and regulations;and that if they did not do so they would board and sink them. They asserted that the subjects of Great Britain had no right to fish on the Manx coast as the seas around it,with the fish in them, belonged to the King of Man. They cursed the crews of the busses,calling them English dogs and Negroes. The Whitehaven men kept quiet under this abuse,but because they did not at once draw in their nets the Manxmen cut and destroyed their buoys and so frightened them that they drew in their nets and sailed away to a great distance,
The agent of the Whitehaven Chamber(Mr.J.Coupland) went to Douglas and complained to the Governor,who sent him to the Water Bailiff (J. Quayle) before whom he laid a complaint against John Kissack and Thos. Costain who were the masters of two of the Manx boats and the only ones known to him. He was promised redress and protection for the future,but no person in the Island was punished but rather the contrary,for the attacks continued, their buoys being cut during the night the nets damaged and the fish lost, until the crews dare no longer try to fish except in places where there was little hope of a catch. The four busses stayed two months in St.George' Channel,during which they suffered losses to their gear amounting to over sixty pounds and took but a third of the fish they should have had in one month had they been allowed to fish in peace.
The complaint continues that the authorities in the Island insist that the Lord has an exclusive right to the fishing up to three leagues from the Manx coasts,and demand dues from all boats fishing within these limits, while the clergy demand tithe.
These claims the Whitehaven Chamberrefuse to admit,claiming the right as British subjects to fish in any British seas. They point out that Manx fisherman fish all round the coast of Britain and Ireland without any trouble or payment,and land their fish in British ports,
The claim is deregatory to the honour of the British Crown.
They ask the advice and assistance of the Free British Fishery in obtaining amendment for their losses and protection for the future.
AP_X27_3
- copy of AP_X27_2 -.
AP_X27_4
18.1.1754
J.Quayle to - (? Harrison) General.
AP_X27_5
29.1.1754
D.Mylrea to Duke. asking for a presentation to the living of Kk. Bride for his son.
AP_X27_6
29.1.1754
D.Mylrea to - ( ? Harrison) asking his assistance in the above application.
AP_X27_7
31.1.1754
Mylrea to Harrison. on the same subject.as the above.
AP_X27_8
2.2.1754
Cochrane to Harrison (from Edin.) General.
AP_X27_9
4.2.1754
Deemsters and Officers to the Chamber of Fishery at Whitehaven. They express regret for the behaviour of the Manx fishermen to the four Whitehaven busses which was not known to them at the time so that they could not prevent it. It was due to ignorance,and they have been admonished and threatened with punishment if they so offend again. Any complaints from Whitrhaven,if properly made,will always receive full consideration.
AP_X27_10
5.2.1754
J.Humfrey to Harrison. re payment of his rent for the Calf.
AP_X27_11
8.2.1754
Deemsters and Officers to Duke. The dispute with the Whitehaven busses was due to the Manx fishermen objecting to them breaking some of the local rules as to the casting of their nets. The insinuation that the officials in the Island were in any way responsible,or were unwilling to punish the Manx men, is not in accordance with the facts.
AP_X27_12
7.2.1754
J. Murray to Duke. (from Edin.) in support of Deemster Mylrea's application for his son to be given the living of Kk. Bride.
AP_X27_13
7.2.1754
Harrison to Griffith (draft of a letter which was not sent.) Tfhe Duke hes given orders that the Whitehaven boats shall not be molested when fishing near the Island so long as they obey the Manx rules
AP_X27_14
18.2.1754
Harrison to Griffith Why was complaint not made to him, instead of to London ?
AP_X27_15

Notes on the dispute with the Whitehaven fishing busses. - in particular with the risk that the Duke's rights as Admiral of the seas around the Island may be infringed.
AP_X27_16
11.2.1754
Gov. Cochrane to Duke (from Culross) re the living of Kk. Bride for Deemster Mylrea's son. His health is better,and he hopes soon to go to Dunkeld,
AP_X27_17
25.2.1754
Gov. Cochrane to Duke. The scurvey from which he suffers is so bad that he cannot travel,but hopes for an early improvement.
AP_X27_18
5.4.1754
Rev.T.W.J.Woods to Harrison applying for the living of Kk.Maughold,the vicar of which has that day died.
AP_X27_19
5.4.1754
Rev.T.W.J.Woods to Harrison another letter,in similar terms as AP_X27_18.
AP_X27_20
6.4.1754
H.Cosnahan to Harrison recommending Mr.Woods for the living at Kk.Maughold.
AP_X27_21
18.4.1754
E.Woods (London) to Harrison. supporting,and forwarding, the application of his cousin Rev. T.W.J.Woods.
AP_X27_22
22.4.1754
Gov. Cochrane to Duke. (from Culross) Still ill,and confined to the house. Recommending Mr.Woods.
AP_X27_23
13.5.1754
J.Quayle to Duke. enclosing two small Bills. The only person able to draw for a large sum is Mr.G.Moore of Peel,who refuses to do so for less than 1% premium, which,having no authority to agree to,he has refused.
AP_X27_24
27.6.1754
Officers of the Island to Duke with copies of two letters (as under) They fear that if the request of the Whitehaven Chamber is granted the Manx fishermen will be deprived of their living.
AP_X27_25
29.5.1754
Whitehaven Chamber of Fishery to Officers of the I.O.M. Acknowledging receipt of AP_X27_9. Finding the Manx authorities are not antagonistic they have refrained from making their grievances public,so as not to cause ill-feeling between the Manx and the rest of H.M.'s subjects. But learning that it is the intention of the Manx fishermen to attack their boats again if they go to St.George's Channel next season they are determined not to do so except under the protection of an armed force - with which they believe the Admiralty will be willing to furnish. They intend to bring actions in the Manx Courts against those who have committed assaults on their busses,and if they do not get justice will appeal to the Courts in Britain or to Parliament. They deny that any laws,relating to the fishery,made in the Island are binding on other than Manx subjects. The methods they employ have been used in the Shetland and at Yarmouth,where they havo been protected in the use of them by H.M's ships of war on fishery pretection duty.(This meant,apparently,that all small boats were obliged to keep clear of the train of nets laid by the large busses. N.M.) It is hoped that with the help of the Duke's officers the Manx fishermen will be restrained,and that there will be no need for them to take the steps they have threatened to do in support of their right as British subject to fish anywhere in the British seas.
AP_X27_26
27.6.1754
Officers of the Island to Whitehaven Chamber of Fishery. They are not aware of any threats having been made as regards the next season,but give an assurance that they will do all they can to prevent any future trouble. In return it is hoped that orders will be given to "your busses to behave carefully,tenderly and cautiously towards our poor little shells...so as to avoid distressing them". They ask that any complaints there may be shall be sent to them,and promise attention to them.


 

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