Redfern family

The following information is derived from IGI, wills, census data, directory entries etc; it makes no claim to completeness. It is possible there were two families of this name - the first having a base in Castletown and the second, later, family based in Douglas - I have not been able to find any link between these two families.

Redfern (or Redfearne) as a family name would appear to come from the Cheshire/Derbyshire border south east of Manchester - Derbyshire appeared to remain the main centre of the name in the 19th Century though by then Redferns had been early settlers in the USA and in Australia (where a suburb of Sydney is named after a William Redfern), there was also a late18th C emigration to Flintshire, North Wales connected with lead-mining. The earliest Redfern found on the Island is Edward, who died in 1683, judging from his will a small farmer - three children are mentioned in his and his widow's will, the eldest son John would appear to have been a smith, however only the children of his third son, Thomas, had surviving issue, the youngest son, who left the Island to seek his fortune, was under age at his father's death. The wives' names are all English and would appear to be linked to the Stanley retainers at Castle Rushen.

Thomas was a soldier at Castle Rushen, rising to be Captain and Constable of Castle Rushen and retiring as Lieutenant - he also prospered leaving several houses in his will - both his sons also spent sometime as soldiers, by 1757 both were carpenters in Castletown. His wife Jane was the daughter of William Harley and Jane Moore (m 1658 at Malew), though no Jane is in the IGI, she is mentioned in both her father's and brother Thomas's wills - siblings William 1663, Mary 1667, Elizabeth 1673, Thomas 1676, Catherine 1684) - probably born c. 1670. It does not however appear that William was related to Nicholas Harley, son of Thomas Harley who had moved to the Isle of Man as a trader by 1670 (see pp11/12 Wilkins 'Jacobite Network').

Taking first the family of the eldest son John (John I) who married Martha Woods - his eldest daughter married William Tellet (no marriage yet found), their second child Daniel,was the founder of the Ramsey Tellet family. John's eldest son, Thomas married Jane (or Ann) Christian and had a large family, the eldest son of which, John III (1765-1817) founded the butchery business in Douglas.

Butchers in Douglas

John Redfern in partnership with a Quayle are noted as butchers with their shambles near to Market Place (Manx Advertiser 2 November 1804), in January 1815 (Manx Advertiser 4 Jan 1815) a house near Post Office formerly occupied by Mr John Redfern, butcher, is to be let. He died in 1817 and in August 1818 appears an advert (MA 27 Aug 1818) for a large room in James Street to be let. The wife of Mr John Redfern, butcher, is reported (MA 14 Aug 1817) as having died at Liverpool. Around this period his son Thomas combined innkeeping with butchery, possibly initially as junior partner to P Quayle, as the company was generally referred to as Quayle & Redfern, the partnership was disolved in September 1840 (Manx Sun 18 Sep 1840) - however by 1 Sep 1849 there appears a notice that Thomas declined the business and shop & premises are to be let - he died shortly afterwards. Thomas had opened the Butchers Arms inn in James Street (possibly this was the Plough as he had married the daughter of the landlady there) - this inn/hotel thrived and towards the end of his life and afterwards was known as Redfern's Hotel - however towards the end of the 19th Century it fell into decrepitude but gained a new role when some large rooms of the old inn became the Methodist Redfern's mission. Thomas left an interestingly worded will in which he avoids referring to his second wife, Charlotte, by that term in case the will was challenged, as he had contracted an invalid marriage by marrying the sister of his deceased first wife.

Slaver

John III's second son Robert had a different, though short career, he served on a slave ship and was one of the many in this trade who died off the coast of Africa.

Liverpool Sailmaker

John II (1732-?) is referred to as a Liverpool sailmaker - it is known from Joshua and wife Elizabeth's wills that this John had a son John who was left considerable property in Castletown after the death of Elizabeth. The 1790 Gore's directory has a Mrs Margaret Redfern at 18 Leigh Street, Liverpool, the 1796 edition shows her at 21 Leigh Street (probably same house) with a Mrs Mary Redfern at 13 Cropper street (off Lawton street). It is possible that this Margaret is the widow of John II In the 1832 Poll Book for Liverpool are
Redfern, John, Sail Maker, Lower Pitt Street
*Redfern, George, Sail Maker, Pitt Street,
*Redfern, John Jnr., Painter, Pitt Street
*Redfern, James B., Sail Maker, Greenland Street,
Those marked * are Burgesses and Freemen of Liverpool. The Pitt Street Redferns I believe to be the family of John Redfern, son of John II, and Margaret Williams (George born Dec 1800 and John jnr born September 1802 - both baptised at St Nicholas's Liverpool, their Liverpool birth might explain why they and not their father were freemen of Liverpool); John and Margaret were married at St Ann's Liverpool in 1792 - there were also at least six daughters - Mary, Ann, Esther, Joyse, Eliza and Margaret. John jnr is presumeably the John Redfern, Painter & Glazier, age 48 found in 1851 census at 2 Upper Luke Street, St Thomas, Liverpool along with wife Alice and three children
The other sailmaker is James Barton Redfern who with wife Ann (no marriage or family name found) had a family between 1829 and 1840 - possibly unrelated to the other Redferns - other Redferns were also present in Liverpool at this period.

There would appear to have been movement of this family back and forth between Douglas and Liverpool.

 

Castletown Hotelkeeper

It would appear that Joshua Redfern ran Redfern's Hotel in Castletown - there is an advert dated 17 Dec 1822 (just after his death)

To be let: Dwelling House with yard behind and stable and cowhouse in front situate on the Douglas Road at the entrance of Castletown formerly occupied as an Inn. Apply Mrs Redfern on the premises.

This corresponds closely with Joshua's own description of his house in his will - the 1823 directory has "Redfern Mrs. Elizabeth; near the Draw-bridge". Feltham in 1798 has it as one of the three principal inns in Castletown.

It might well be the house to the left on Grose's view of 1787 or possibly on the other side of the road now forming the Castle Inn (or 'Gluepot') - the sign over the door would appear to be a ship.

 

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Ross Redfern & family

I can find no baptism for Ross Redfern - he would appear to be brother to the George who bought the property on the South Quay - both he and his brother were butchers, Ross applied for a licence to sell alcohol in 1789.

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[Note many additions/corrections to be done - please treat as work in progress - a couple of the George Redferns are possibly confused and there are several other putative links that are highly questionable!]



   Edward = Jane Robinson
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 d. 1683  |   d. 1689
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    |   1687                  |                       1692    |   1700                      |
  John   = Kathrin Taylor  Edward    Elizabeth Highnett =  Thomas = Jane Harley           George
  b 1655 |                c 1657               d 1692   |   c 1660|                      c 1670  (left island 1692 
  d 1703 |                d 1658 (inf)           +------+   d 1749|  d 1742           presumed dead by 1703)
    +----+----+-------+-------+---------+        |         +------+---+---------+-------------+  
    |         |       |       |         |        |         |          |         |             |
Elizabeth  Cathrin  Jaine   John     Thomas    Peter      John     Leonora    Jane        Thomas
  b 1690    b 1691   b 1694  b 1696  b 1698    b 1692     b 1700    b 1701    b 1706      b 1708 
  db1703    db1703   db1703  db1703  d 1705               d 1762    d 1762      |         d 1792
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                  +----------------------------------------+          |         |            |
                  |                                                 1729(Sn)   1750          |
                  |                                  Richard Quirk    =    John =            |
                1728                                                  |  Taubman            1749
                  = Martha Woods                                      v                      = Alice Maddrell
                  |                                                  Jane                    |
                  | d 1801             Leonora was a twin with Esther (?d young)             |  d 1790
             +----+-------+--------+---------+---------+---------+-------------+---------+   +-------+-----------+---------+                               +.....................................+                                      
             |            |        |         |         |         |             |         |           |           |         |                               |                                     |     
           Elizabeth    Thomas   John     Leonora    Jane    Margaret      George     Joshua      Thomas      Leonora    Jane       Mary                George                                 Ross                       Hannah
             |b 1729     b 1731   b 1732   b 1736    b 1738    b 1741       b 1744     b 1749      b 1754     b 1755   b 1756        |                     |                                  b c 1759                      |
             |db1801     d 1800   db1790   d 1788    da1801    da1801       d 1822     d 1821      d 1782        |     db1790        |                   d 1822                                d 1824                       |
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           by 1756        |        |        1753      1772(Jy)  1761           |        1802                     |                   |                     |                                     |                          |
             = William    |        |         = Thomas  = Robert  = George      |         = Elizabeth Corrin    +-+1776               |                     |                                     |                          |
             | Tellet     |        |              Quayle   Parry      Campbell |         |   d 1831            | =  Thomas           |  1779(Bn)         1803                                    |                          |
    +--------+-----+      |        +-------------------+    Young d 1746       |         0                     |     Cannell         +-- = Johnathan       =  Ann Wattleworth                    |                          |
    |              |     1762(Md)                1765  |   1776                |                               |                             Smith         |   als Moore                1786(Bn) |  1802 (Mn)             1794(Bn)
 William        Daniel    = Jane/Ann      Isabel   =---+---= Margaret          =  Anne                    (Jane illg)                                      0   d 1828               Ann Mary =---+---= Ann Kewish          = James Randall
                b 1756    |  Christian     Taggert |       | Harrison          |  Collier                                                                                          Cottiman  |       | 
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    |         |        |       |       |      |          |                     |                 |       |                                                    +---------+--------+--------+--+--------+-----------+----------+------------+              +-----------------+
   Jane      John   Robert  William Martha Thomas       John     John      Elinor             George    dau                                                   |         |        |        |           |           |          |            |              |                 |
  b 1764   b 1765   b 1767   b 1777    |    b 1782      b 1766  b c1782    b 1777            b 1779(dsm) 1784                                               John       Ann     Mary      Jane       George     William      Ross       Sussanah        Margaret         Mary Ann
    |      d 1817   d 1804   d 1840    |    d xxxx      d 1767   d 1841    d xxxx            d xxxx                                                          b 1787    b 1789    b 1790    b 1791    bn 1793    bp 1803(Dsm) bp 1803(Dsm) bp 1803(Dsm)   b 1803(Ry)       b 1805(Ry)
    | James   |        |       |       +----+                      |         |                   |                                                           d xxxx    d xxxx    d xxxx    d xxxx    d 1857 
    = Stowell |        +-----+ +-----+      |                      |        1798            1798 |  1819                                                      |         |        |         |           | 
         1794 |             1798   1808    1800                    |  Andrew =   Jane Cannell = -+-  = Margaret Kelly                                        1817     1815(Bn)  1812(Bn) 1825(Bn)    1816
 Ann Woods =--+   Elizabeth--=  Eliz =       = John Kennish        |   Moore                  |      |                                                        = Cath    = Thomas = Robert  = William   =  Margaret Quiggin  
   b 1776  |        Quayle   |Corlett|       |                     |                          |      |                                                           Small     Cubbon   Morrison   Creer   |                   
   d 1817  |                 |       |       v             Mary = -+                          |      +-----------------------------------------------------+     d 1820                                +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+  
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 b 1795    b 1797   b 1800  b 1802     b 1803        |          Mary  Isabella   Margaret   John     William  Ann   Jane   Elizabeth Robert  George                                                                     John   Thomas  Robert    Mary-Ann Jane-Mgt Catherine    Isabel       John   Margaret  Mary-Ann  James H     
 d 1819    d 1849   d 1818             d xxxx        |        b c 1816    |      b c 1826  b c1827   b1799(Gn)d1802 b 1804  b 1807   ?b1812   b 1810                                                                    b 1819 b 1821  b 1824     b 1827    b 1829     b 1831    b 1835     b 1821   b c.1819   b 1829    b 1838                 
   |          |                          |2 illeg    |          1834    1842                 |       d xxxx                                   d xxxx                                                                    d xxxx         d xxxx               d 1830                            |      d 1848                                     
   |          +--------------+                       |    Robert =  Colin =                  |          ?                                     |                                                                           |              |                                                    |         |      
  1813                 1822  | 1846                 1826   Kelly   Pearson|                 1854       1821(Whitehaven)                      1833                                                                        1846           1845                                               1843(Liv)   1845         
   = Samuel     Elizabeth =--+--= Charlotte          = Maurice                 Esther Clarke =          = Dorothy Ford                        = Elizabeth Beedon                                                      Ann =              = Ann                                   Sarah Bridson=         = William    
   |  Harris      Blake   |     |  Blake = William      Adams                                           |                                     |                                                                      Cain |              | Senior                                             |           Bridson 
   |              d 1844  0     0  b 1804   Stewart                                             +----+--+--+                  +--------+------+-+--------+----------+----------+                    +-----+---------+-----+....          +-----                                               |          
   v                               d 1867                                                       |    |     |                  |        |        |        |          |          |                    |     |         |     |              |                          +-----------+----------+--+----+----+----------+-------------+
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                                                                                              1823  1826 1829                b 1834   b 1835  b 1838   b 1840     b 1841      b 1843                     b 1850  b 1850                b 1846                       Sarah-Ann   Robert B.  Charles Elizabeth-Jane  Edward     William-Coates     
                                                                                              d 1838                         d xxxx   d xxxx  d xxxx   d xxxx     d 1918      d xxxx                                                                              b 1844     b 1848      b 1848    b 1850       b 1852(Liv)  b 1855(Sandbach)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         d 1848   (family found in Liverpool 1851) 
                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                           

The MI for George Redfern in Douglas St George's reads

In memory of George Redfern who departed this life March 27th 1857 aged 64 also of Margaret Bridson daughter of above who departed this life August 4th 1848 in the 29th year of her life.

This George Redfern left a will in which he left all to his wife Margaret (no children named) - described in will (1858 A #51) as of the town of Ramsey & late of Regaby in parish of Andreas - the will was dated 16 Jan 1855, witnesses Henry Higgin and Daniel Sayle watchmaker - the pledges were the said Daniel Sayle and Thomas Kneale (presumeably Thomas Kneale owner of Regaby of which George was erstwhile tenant). The death notice in the paper stated 'died at Auckland Terrace Ramsey but formerly of this town [Douglas]'. However there does not appear to be a christening for a Margaret Redfern around 1825 though there is a marriage to William Bridson in Andreas in 1845.

 

The Robert Parry Young with whom Jane Redfern 'eloped' in 1772 (a marriage at Jurby!) was the Lt Robert Benjamin Young who was in charge of the Portsmouth division of the third fleet which transported convicts to Australia in 1791 and whose son later played a role at Trafalgar.

There is a query re marriage of Jane Redfern to James Stowell - referred to by A W Moore but I can find no record - Jane, sister of Wm married a Thomas Stanystreet in Liverpool in 1790 - first 2 children were baptised in Ormskirk and Wigan respectively before the family came back to Liverpool before1795, and where they remained.

Newspaper jottings

Manx Adv 14 Nov 1816 married Mr George Redfern (butcher) and Miss Margt Quiggin, both of this town

Manx Adv 14 Aug 1817 died at Liverpool wife of Mr John Redfern, butcher

Manx Adv 28 Jan 1819 Married George Redfern (butcher) and Miss Margaret Kelly - the register gives George as widower - witnesses Paul Cain & Catherine Kelly als Kelly.

Manx Adv 5 Jan 1822 died in Redfern Square [Near the market, at the bottom of James' Street and demolished 1890's] Mr George Redfern, butcher, aged 77; executor Mr William Redfern - George Redfern buried Braddan 3 Jan 1822.

Manx Adv 26 Feb 1828 Died on South Quay Mrs Redfern age 94 - this would appear to be Mrs Ann Redfern als Wattleworth buried Malew 28 Feb 1828 though age given as 89. Her late husband, George, had bought a house on South Quay.

Manx Adv 16 Sep 1828 died at Derbyhaven Mrs Redfern, widow of late George Redfern of this town - this from burial register was Ann Redfern bur Malew 11 Sep 1828 age 62

during 1820's and 1830's several adverts for George Redfern Butcher Duke St

Manx Adv 4 June 1833 married Mr George Redfern jnr butcher to Miss Beaden dau of late Mr Ed Beaden, Castletown

Sun 21 March 1834 Died in Duke St age 37 Dorethea wife of Mr Wm Redfern master of the Ellinor of this port - this is Dorothy Ford, married 20 Sep 1821, Holy Trinity, Whitehaven - there are three children I can find in IGI - it may be possible that this Captain William is the William Redfern born 1799, however there are other Redferns in Cumberland at this period though I could not find any christenings pre 1806 and none of any William.

[1838 - date to be checked] Redfern (son of Capt W Redfern) killed whilst feeding a horse at back of Mr George Redfern's premises Duke St. - this I believe is John Redfern age 15 bur Douglas St George 13 Mar 1838.

Manx Sun 30 Aug 1845 - Margaret Redfern eldest daughter George Redfern Regaby married William Bridson, ironmonger, Liverpool

Sun 9 Sug 1845 Robert Redfern joiner married Ann Seignor

1823 Directory

Redfern Geo. butcher, Duke-st - this was probably George(1793-1857)
Redfern Ths. butcher &c. James-st - this was Thomas (1792-1849) of the Butcher's Arms
Redfern Wm. sail maker and vict [victualler]. Custom-house Quay - William (1777-1840) at the 'Ship'
Roberts Wm. vict. James-st

1837 Directory

Butchers - Redfern George, Duke st
Butchers - Redfern Thomas. James st
Farmers - Redfern George,Springhill, Braddan
Inns - Butchers' Arms, Thomas Redfern, James Street
Livery Stable - Redfern Thomas, James St
Ship Master - Redfern John, King st (this is most probably the John who died 1841 and was Master of the Henry Holmes and the brig Argo)
Taverns - Redfern William (Ship) North quay (by 1843 held by Martha Redfern - not sure who she is as I believe his sister Martha was married)

1841 Census

Bra.2.7.31: Castleward house: George 45, Margaret 40, John 23, Margaret 20, Elizabeth 15
Dou.2.14.60: Athol Street : Mary 50, Mary 15, John 14 (widow of Capt John)
Dou.2.18.76: George 62, Mary A 52, John 20, Margaret 18, Catherine 16, Margaret 12, Catherine 8
Dou.2.21.93: Elizabeth 70 (in same household as Elizabeth Blake (m-in-law Thomas) + Charlotte Blake (sister-in-law Thomas and his future 2nd wife)
Dou.5.16.69:James St: Thomas 40, Elizabeth 40
Dou.6.5.26: George 32,Elizabeth 25, Jane 7,Ann 5, Edward 4
Dou.6.13.73: Margaret 18, Thomas 3 (not 100% sure - Margaret could be Capt John's dau ? Thomas as no obvious entry in IGI)

1851 Census

Onc.3.2.21: Brown Bobby Inn (on Douglas/Peel Rd): George (butcher) age 41, Elizabeth age 34, Elizabeth 17, Edward 14, William 9,George 7, Emily 5, James 2, Mary-Ann 5m (all just give birth IoM)
Dou.4.19.60 Charlotte 44
Dou.8.10.37 Catherine 20 (servant ?)
Dou.9.9.25: John 24, Margaret 27 (bro & sister children of Capt John)
Ger.2.32.29 Mary 22
Pat.1.8.24 John 31, Ann 29, Thomas 4, twins John & James 5m (John + Ann Cain)

Liverpool 281 2182/2 12 Bloom Street (HO 107/2182): John Redfern Head 29 House owner, Isle of Man, Douglas ; Sarah, wife 30, Lancashire, Liverpool ; Sarah Ann, 7, IOM Douglas ;Elizabeth Jane, 1, IOM Douglas (John + Sarah Bridson)

1861 Census

Whiteford Street cellar, West Derby. [Liverpool] George Redfern, 51, Butcher - Casually employed, wife: Elizabeth 44, wife, Ann 25 dressmaker, George 17 joiner, Emily 15, James 12, John 8, Charles C. 4, Elizabeth Pritchard 3 granddaughter, William Pritchard 1 grandson. The last three were Liverpool born, the others IOM.

References

Frances Wilkins The Isle of Man & the Jacobite Network Kidderminster: Wyre Forest Press 2002 (ISBN 1-897725-15-9)


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