Sorry to move off tack, but I saw a Ramus family tree on Ancestry a while ago with Leece names and some of my family too.
My g g grandfather Philip Shimmin married a Elinor Leece in 1848. If you own that family tree I would love to hear from you. I can be contacted at colin.shimmin3 at btinternet.com.
I will try to follow this thread but it seems very complex. Colin.
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