Manx Genealogy Archive 2

JohnGelling b1837, bro of Paul

Hi Anne

I was browsing through the photo section on Ancestry and think I may have found a brother of your Paul Gelling b 1847. It's John Gelling "b 1837, IOM, died 14 Dec 1881 Liverpool", no mention of parents.

There are 3 John Gellings born in 1837 IOM:

1) b Braddan, parents James Gelling and Elizabeth Kelly---it's def not him as he married Esther Clague, my g grandmother's sister.

2) John Gelling bap 24 Aug 1837 to James Gelling and Margaret Moore

Ancestry, indexed as Golling
1841 Onchan district 2a, page 9
George's Walk
James Gelling age 30 mason
Marg age 25
John age 4
James age 2
James Moore age 13

1851 Conchan district 8, page 41
84 Sand Street
James Gelling head age 34 mason born Braddan
Margaret wife age 31 born England
John son age 13 b Douglas
James son age 11 b Douglas
Elizabeth dau age 4 b England
Margaret dau age 3 months b Douglas


3) John Gelling bap 10 Aug 1842 Douglas St Barnabas to Robert Gelling and Catherine Craine

1841 Onchan, district 5, pages 1 and 2
Haywood Place
Jno Caine age 60 independent
Rob Gelling age 30 sailor
Cath age 30
Ann age 9
Eliza age 5
Jno age 4
Cath age 2
Ann Stephen age 40 independent
Mary Tear age 15 servant
1851 Conchan, district 2b, page 45
1 Callow Place
Robert Gelling Head age 44 mariner
Catherine wife age 42
Catherine dau age 16
John son age 13
Elizabeth dau age 11
Jane dau age 9
Robert son age 6
Paul son age 4
Emma dau age 1
All born Douglas
1861 Conchan, district 11, page 26
4 Auckland Grove
Robert Gelling Head age 54 assistant harbour master
Catherine wife age 51
Catherine M dau age 21
Jane dau age 19
Robert son age 16 joiner
Paul son age 14
Emma dau age 11
Joseph son age 8
Thomas Edward son age 6
Emma Matilda Coop granddau age 3
All born Douglas except Emma Matilda who was born England.


These are his marriage details from the website:

18 Sep
Age: 31
Marriage to Eleanor Christian Craine

Ballaugh, IOM
Description: Winesses John Thomas Craine and Catherine M. Gelling

Occupation joiner


Then this information has been added at a later date:

"I've found John Gelling in Liverpool boarding and working as a house carpenter in 1861.

After the death of eleanor John Gelling remarried Annie, (don't know where or when) they had 2 daughters who were born in America - Clara and Catherine (Katie) they had returned to Liverpool for the birth of another daughter Annie and the son who died young, Robert Craine Gelling.
In 1881 John is a carpenter employing 3 men and a boy.

I cannot find his widow and second family in the 1891 census at all - where are they?

By 1901 John's widow Annie Gelling has remarried to Edward Feeny. Clara and Catherine are living with them, but no mention of dau Annie (maybe she had died)
also living with them is Florrie Pooster a niece to Eddie and Teresa Scott a grand daughter

Clara died in 1905, and I can't find anything after that."


This MI is also given:

John Gelling inscrption

In loving memory of John Gelling of Liverpool, builder , eldest son of the late Robert Gelling of Douglas, harbour master, who departed this life at Liverpool on Wednesday 14th December 1881 aged 44 years; also of Robert Craine Gelling who died 31st October 1881 age 3 months.


The things which link this John Gelling to your Robert Gelling / Cath Craine family are the name of one of the witnesses at the 1868 marriage (Cath M Gelling), the occupation of joiner at his 1868 marriage, and the MI mentioning that the father was a harbour master.

This is the link to the page on the website:

Jean C