Thanks Len this is what i had found as well as yourself,
but although mary married william in 1873 and she was born 1852 england , i just wonder who i also have with mary[ harybond ] born lezayre 1869 to thomas peberdy and grace, thomas was born in england as well, in 1871 census thomas peberdy was born 1832 england married, h e is down as a butler in what looks like milntown, ramsey /lezayre, but no wifes name or daughter, can any one explain why this is so,