thanks again jim you can reach me anytime at joanchallis@pathcom.com i would loveto see the family of isaac and anything else today i did find the 2nd marriage of jane mcneill als kelly it was at st barnabas in douglas on august 11th 1889 to a joseph crellin widower and a labourer of hanover st and jane was also a widow living on duke st jane married clive on june 30th 1861 in k michael and their children were margaret born 1860 clive born 1863 and alfred born 1869 and a dau mary j