Unfortunately I do not have any details of Alfred other than that on his marriage certificate and my mother in laws birth certificate. His father is down as John and he is Alfred on his marriage certificate and John Alfred on mum in laws birth certificate. Unfortunately as he deserted the family at sometime in the late 1930's or 40's we have no further information. In 1915 when he married his age was stated as 40 but he may have been 45 as mother in laws mumalwasy said he was 20 years older than her.
thank you once again for your suggestions and help.