Many thanks Mike.
Yes they are my family, but at the moment I cant get any futher back on Charles Brown. I know he was a journeyman miller. He arrived in IOM around 1842-1843, (according to C Radcliffe) and died in1857 and is buried at Ballure Chapel.
So as an alternative I thought I'd try to go back on Ellen Williams line but that seem to be just as difficult at the moment !!