hi bruce the information i have is 1861 census james gellingshoemaker douglas 43
eliza gelling 29 born ireland
james 12 born liverpool
catherine 7 born liverpool
william 3 born liverpool
eliza 1 born liverpool
elizas maiden name was cropen in the 1881 census eliza john and william had moved to barrow in furness iam going to the island later tonight hope to find out the father of john gelling married to cathe coole 14 8 1803 if you want anything from the island let me know thanks for all assistance given yours mark