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Re: JAMES KELLY & MARY ANN CAIN
In Response To: JAMES KELLY & MARY ANN CAIN ()

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Hi Neil

I found your tree on Ancestry and I think that you’re right in your suggestion that James Kelly was the illegitimate son of Catherine Fargher and Thomas Kelly. All the other trees which suggest names for James’s parents are saying Thomas Kelly and Ann Shimmin---but that couple lived in Lonan and had all their children there, so I’d rule them out.
Discovering which Thomas Kelly was the father of Cath Fargher's child could prove to be impossible because there were so many possible candidates.

I’ll paste my notes in below:

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Name: James Kelly • Edit
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 29 Sep 1839 • Edit
Event Place: Onchan, Isle of Man • Edit
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Thos Kelly • Edit
Mother's Name: Cath Fargher • Edit
Record Number: 3566

Image shows: James illegitimate son of Cath Fargher and Thos Kelly

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1841
Kiondroghad, Onchan

NameAge
Catherine Fargher35
William Fell7
James Kelly2
Isabella Cross80
William Cross50

notes:
CF 35 washerwoman

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1851
Kiondroghad, Onchan

Ancestry’s transcription:

NameAge
Catherine Faragher 50
James Killey 11

Note:
should be James Kelly.
CF 50 unmarried laundress

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1861
Onchan village

Catherine Fargher unmarried 56 laundress b Onchan
(on her own)

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1871
Onchan Village

Catherine Faragher unmarried 54 laundress b Onchan, living alone.
A mistake was made in her age which should have been circa 70.

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If this is Cath Fargher’s burial, she was older than she admitted:

Name: Catherine Faragher • Edit
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 18 Sep 1873 • Edit
Event Place: Onchan, Isle of Man • Edit
Age: 76
Birth Year (Estimated): 1797
Record Number: 991

Image shows that she lived in Onchan Village

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Possible baptism:

Name: Catharine Fargher • Edit
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 15 Oct 1797 • Edit
Event Place: Onchan, Isle of Man • Edit
Gender: Female
Father's Name: James Fargher • Edit
Record Number: 2265

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1871
Onchan Village

NameAge
James Kelly 30
Mary A Kelly 20
John J Kelly 1

notes:
MAK 20 b Marown
JK 30 labourer b Onchan
JJK 1 b Onchan

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1881
Longlands Cottage, Dalton in Furness

NameAge
James Kelly 39
Mary A. Kelly 28
John J. Kelly 11
Thomas Kelly 9
Alice Kelly 6
Jopth Kelly 3
William Kelly
Isabella Kelly
notes:
JK 39, JJK 11 and TK 9 all b Onchan
MAK 28 b Marown
younger chn b Dalton
youngest two are twins age 7 months

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1891
Name Age
James Kelley 49
Mary A Kelley 40
Thos Kelley 19
Joseph Kelley 13
William Kelley 10
Isabella Kelley 10
Charles Kelley 8
Mary E Kelley 5

JK 49 labourer b Onchan IOM
MAK 40 b Marown IOM
TK 19 b Onchan IOM
others b Dalton in Furness

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1901
Longlands, Dalton in Furness

Name Age
James Kelly 59
Mary A Kelly 51
Thomas Kelly 29
Joseph Kelly 23
Mary E Kelly 15

JK 59, MAK 51 and TK 29 all b IOM
others b Dalton

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1911
Longlands, Dalton in Furness

Name Age
James Kelly 69
Mary Kelly 59
Thomas Kelly 39
Mary Elizth Anderton 25
Freda May Anderton 3

notes:
JK 69 carter on estate b Onchan IOM
MK 59 b Marown IOM married 42 yrs, 8 chn, 8 still living
TK 39 labourer b Onchan IOM
MEA 25 dau b Dalton
FMA grdau b Dalton

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Possible death registrations:

Name: James Kelly
Death Age: 86
Birth Date: abt 1840
Registration Date: Apr 1926
[May 1926]
[Jun 1926]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Ulverston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 924

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Name: Mary Kelly
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: abt 1854
Registration Date: Apr 1927
[May 1927]
[Jun 1927]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Barrow-in-Furness
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 942

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Name: James Kelly
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Jan 1869
Event Place: Onchan, Isle of Man
Event Place (Original): Onchan, Isle of Man
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Mary Cain
Spouse's Gender: Female

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Name: Mary Anne Caine
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 7 Mar 1852
Event Place: Baldwin, Isle of Man
Event Place (Original): Saint Lukes, Baldwin, Isle of Man
Gender: Female
Father's Name: John Caine
Mother's Name: Mary Corkill

Also:

Elizabeth 1841
Jane 1844
Andrew John 1846
Christian 1848

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1851
Algare ? Braddan

Name Age
John Cain 33
Mary Cain 32
Elizabeth Cain 9
Andrew Cain 5
Christian Cain 2
Eleanor Cain 18
James Starley 16

Notes:
JC 33 tailor and farming 30 acres b Braddan
MC 32 b Peel
chn b Braddan
1 visitor and 1 servant

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1861
Gt Nelson St, Douglas

NameAge
John Cain 45
Mary A Cain 42
Mary A Cain 9
Thomas J Cain 7
Joseph Cain 3
Emily J Cowley 8 Months

notes:
JC 45 carter b Braddan
MAC 42 b German
MAC 9 b Marown
TJC 7 b Patrick
JC 3 b Onchan

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1871
Ballawillin, Marown

Ancestry’s mis-transcription---Isabella Cain mother widow age 84

NameAge
John Caine54
Mary A Caine52
Andrew J Caine25
Thomas F Caine16
Joseph Caine13
David Caine9
Jiaballen Cain64

JC 54 miner
All “b IOM”, no parishes listed
Youngest child David 9---bap Braddan 13 Oct 1861 to John Cain (tailor) and Mary Corkill, abode Douglas.

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Jean C