Hi Eric

Ancestry has updated its “Liverpool Marriages and Banns” recently and I’ve found the 1878 marriage of James Thomson and Ann Caley. Ann gave her father’s details as: John Caley, shoemaker.

Here are my notes:

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From LP marriages and banns (recently updated)

Name: James Thomson
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 21
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1857
Marriage Date: 20 Nov 1878
Marriage Place: Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Liverpool
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Father: Archibald Thomson
Spouse: Ann Caley

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Name: Ann Caley
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 22
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1856
Marriage Date: 20 Nov 1878
Marriage Place: Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Liverpool
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Father: John Caley
Spouse: James Thomson

notes:

JT 21 bachelor fireman, Stafford St, father Archibald Thomson, engine driver.
Ann Caley 22 spinster, Scotland St, father John Caley, shoemaker.
Both signed.
Witnesses Robert Gibson and Jane Milray

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I’ve worked through the list of John Caley entries in 1841 and 1851 using Brian Lawson’s indexes and I’ve only found one shoemaker on the IOM in those censuses. There’s also a John Caley (with a strange occupation ?) in the right age group living very near the Lord household at Glenauldyn. He was the son of John Caley and Ann Gill.

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John Caley (Candidate 1) in 1841:

1841
Milltown, Lezayre (close to Glenauldyn)

Ancestry’s transcription:

Name Age
John Caley 35
Anne Caley 40
John Caley 15
Margt Caley 14
Anne Caley 11
William Caley 9
Hugh Caley 7

notes:
JC 35 ag lab
JC 15 “ship C”

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Below is the same family in 1851 (but son John b 1826 (candidate 1) is no longer with them):

1851
Milltown, Lezayre (a few pages away from Eleanor Crellin alias Lord)

Ancestry’s transcription:

Name Age
John Caley 48
Ann Caley 56
Hugh Caley 16
Ann Caley 21

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John Caley (Candidate 2):

1851
Dolly Beg, Ballaugh

Ancestry’s transcription:

Name Age
John Caley 43
Mary Catey 38
Thos Onytrea 8
Robt Cowle 1

notes:
JC 43 unmarried shoemaker b Ballaugh
With his sister and 2 nephews.

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I’ve looked (without success) for a suitable candidate off-island.

It would be very helpful if someone had access to Lezayre Presentments for 1854/5/6/7 --- there might be an entry for Eleanor Crellin / Lord whose illegitimate child was baptised in 1855 (without any mention of the child’s father).

Jean C