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Re: Gob ny Scuit - Hibernian Inn

To- L.W.J. Looney, the original questioner and other readers:-
In any open forum you may find:-
Those who seem to know everything and always have a lot to say.
Some who still have a lot to say but know very little.
Then there is me!

The first Manx Genealogy Bulletin Board was launched in January 1996 and I have read them since.
With its often convoluted ramblings the board has morphed into the chat room you see today
My direct ancestors both in the South and North of the Isle of Man have been referred to sometimes wrongly.
Often accompanied by incorrect assumptions, guesses and speculation -I do not always reply!

Over the years the name Rachel Redhead associated with the Looneys has been mentioned a number of times.
I am not prepared to go into detail about her family/genealogy etc.

I refer you to my brief posting of 4:54pm on 16th Sept. 2013. about John Looney and Rachel Redhead
This was an answer to a specific question by a lady and it was not intended to be reposted by anyone else.
Bear in mind the wording, my points and remarks!

Also Google “Ancestral Roots and Descendants of Charles Robert Looney and Levanchie Margaret Cool“.
(In particular read pages 61 to 66 in Chapter 3)

There are ambiguities both in the book by William and Constance Radcliffe in 1979 and by this author in 2009.
Eg. Rachel Redhead was not of Irish extraction/descent plus errors and licence have been used elsewhere.

I will not give a detailed rebuttal of all wrongs said/written but simply address the latest comments about Hibernian.

John Looney altered the name of the existing dwelling because of its association with Irish navvies in the nearby mines.
Not because of his wife!
He was the registered innkeeper as Rachel who was of limited intelligence and education could not write.
Subsequent owners over the decades have further extended and altered the house and I will not go into all the details.

In late February 1961 I was living in Jurby a stones throw from where Rachel Redhead was born and grew up.
An Avro Anson C19 R.A.F. plane crashed into the upper slopes of North Barrule killing all six occupants.
During the clean up I cycled South from Ramsey the three miles and 500ft uphill to an area called Hibernia.
This had taken me past Cooil Farane Folieu where the Radcliffes lived and to a staggered crossroads at a false summit.
Turning right uphill the entrance gates to the house known as Hibernian are on the immediate left.
Gob-ny-Scuit was a series of small springs bubbling up from a rocky and marshy terrain off the old mountain road.
The main stream flowing downhill and past the south gable end walls of the house named “The Hibernian“.
This stream continues under the main road eastward to the Irish Sea.
I could see this rivulet through a downstairs window and beyond to the South was the field known as Cronk baa Noa.
This is contained within a triangle of lanes.
The main building has been much modified but the original plan was a simple rectangular two up and two down.
It fronted onto the main narrow single carriageway between Ramsey and Laxey with the land rising behind.
The rendered stone walls were two feet thick at the base narrowing to twelve inches at first floor level.
From the front upstairs windows the Lakeland fells to the East and sometimes the Blackpool Tower can be seen today.

At the turn of the twentieth century the then American owner put the house up for sale.
He had extended into the roof space of the already much altered dwelling which by now was almost unrecognisable.
To further add to myths an imprint of a slipper/shoe had been made inside the front room and into new plaster work.
A pre-war prefabricated sleeping hut from decommissioned R.A.F. Jurby was used outside as a Workshop/Garage.

As I said recently, on the present board, to an enthusiastic young woman about “Archdeacon Close, Andreas”.
The keyword is intermarriage and you will not solve your puzzle on the internet.
To you I say-Google street views etc. are sometimes helpful but like any other maps can also be very misleading.
By now with this knotted rope of postings you will have discovered an outline but not a full picture
Instead you will maybe have achieved a disjointed skeleton.

Peter.

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