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Mary Ann Caley b 1853--for Sue
In Response To: Re: Mary Ann Wade b 1853 Lonan ()

Copied from a thread of messages from 2007 in Archive 2:

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Re: The Caley's- Maughold
By:Sue
Date: 29/10/2007, 2:35 am
In Response To: The Caley's- Maughold (Larry Caley)
He is in the Maughold parish register as John Caley (no "E"). Their marriage has only John Caley & Isabella Corkill married 7 Mar 1835 - too early to show fathers' names, residences, and occupations.
Bapts have:
Isab [daur of] John Caley/ Isab Corkill [bapt] Parish Church 7 Jun 1835
John John Caley/ Isab Corkill Parish Church 22 Jan 1843
Esther Ann John Caley/ Isab Corkill Parish Church 29 Mar 1846
Paul John Caley/ Isab Corkill Parish Church 14 Jan 1849
Mary Ann John Caley/ Isab Corkill Parish Church 1 May 1853
William John Caley/ Isabella Parish Church 17 Nov 1850.

There were two other John Caley and wife Isabella Corkill having children bapt in Maughold (earlier), which makes the entries confusing.

Where did you get the children's names from?
("seven children, John, Paul, William, Isobella, Ellinor, Catherine, and Esther")

The 1841 Maughold census has:
1 12 54 Port-e-Vullen Village
Isabella CALEY 25 Ag lab Isle of Man
Elinor CALEY 3 Isle of Man
Cathrine CALEY 1 Isle of Man
Isabella CALEY 6 Isle of Man

- which looks as though it should be them.
Cath Jane daur of John Caley & Cath (sic?) Corkill bapt Parish Church 17 Nov 1839?
Elinor daur of John Caley & Elinor (sic?) Corkill bapt Parish Church 28 Jan 1838?

It looks as though the parish clerk was thoroughly confused with all the Corkills, unless the above two did have different mothers but were living with Isabella in 1841.

In 1861:
1 92 Port E Vullin
John CALEY Head WID 66 Tailor Maughold
Kate CALEY Daughter UNM 20 Maughold
William CALEY Son 10 Scholar Maughold
Margaret CALEY Daughter 8 Scholar Maughold

Also unsure, although Kate/Catherine and William look right. But what about Margaret?

Sue

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Sue, I wondered what your thinking might be re the "Margt Caley daughter age 8" in the 1861 Port e Vullin household. Since the IGI doesn't have a baptism for a Margaret Caley to John Caley and Isabella Corkill, do you think that this is likely to be Mary Ann Caley b 1853 ?

Do you think that this could be the same girl as the Ann Caley who married a younger man, James Thomson b 1857, in Liverpool 20 Nov 1878, giving her father's name as John Caley ? Her birth year from 1881-1911 censuses was given as 1854/5/6.

I've searched for a Mary / Mary Ann / Ann Caley on the IOM and on the mainland in 1871 and the only one I can find (discounting the ones with a father with the wrong name) is:

1871
Maughold

Ancestry's transcription:

Name Age
John Corkill 72
Jane Corkill 67
Ann Caley 14

JC landowner of 8 acres b Maughold
Jane wife b Andreas
AC servant b Lonan

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Would you discount this as being a possible Mary Ann Caley b 1853, dau of John Caley and Isabella Corkill ? Perhaps MAC had spent some of the years between the 1861 and 1871 censuses living in Lonan----being the youngest child who lost her mother at age 4, and having a father who was away at sea, presumably she was cared for by one or more of her grown up siblings. So could John Corkill have given her age/ birth parish information using guesswork ?

Jean C