in 1841 in Bride (no address given) - with 80yr Cath Teare (?thos's mother - bur Bride 18420114 age 80 - I think Cath Kneale wdw of John as I think her cottage in 1851 was occp by son Wm + wife ann) - ch ellen + daniel - daniel is noted as c/o thos tear + elenor joughin - they m Maughold 18370210