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Re: agnes sprung
In Response To: Re: agnes sprung ()

This is Carl Ludwig / Lewis Sprung, widower cigar maker, in the 1881 census:

1881 England Census
about Helena Sprung
Name: Helena Sprung
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Lewis
Gender: Female
Where born: Douglas, Isle of Man, Isle of Man

Civil parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 10 Sinclair St
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal)
ED, institution, or vessel: 51
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Lewis Sprung 43
Helena Sprung 19
Lewis Sprung 17
Margt. Sprung 16
Thomas Sprung 14
Huster Sprung 11
Isabella Sprung 7
Eliza Sprung 5
Mary A. Sprung 2

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Then, in 1891, the census taker has written that Helena age 29 is his wife, when in fact she's his daughter.

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1891 England Census
about Helena Sprung
Name: Helena Sprung
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Lewis
Gender: Female
Where born: Isle of Man, Isle of Man

Civil parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cyprian
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal)
ED, institution, or vessel: 30a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Lewis Sprung 53
Helena Sprung 29
Thomas Sprung 23
James Sprung 21
Isabella Sprung 17
Eliza Sprung 15
Mary Ann Sprung 12
John Sprung 10

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So Lewis is alive in 1891 and "married."

Might he have gone over to Germany to visit relatives when Mary Ann died in 1881, then met a French woman, Agnes, had 2 children, and then decided that he'd return to his family in Liverpool ?

All pure speculation,

Helena married Paul Collister in 1895, and in 1901, she's using the name Selina, and 2 of her sisters are living with her.

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1901 England Census
about Mary Sprung
Name: Mary Sprung
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Raul Collister 42
Selina Collister 37
Raul Collister 2
Isabella Sprung 27
Mary Sprung 22

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Jean C