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Re: Looking for fellow Quilliam's. :o)

My Quilliams are a collateral branch in my Clague ancestry. Anyone know of any Quilliam descendants in this line?

According to ancestral file, James Quilliam and his wife Catherine Elenor Clague wound up in Carleton, Victoria, Australia. I do know that my Catherine Elenor Clague does disappear from the Isle of Man after her August 13, 1850 marriage to James Quilliam:
Malew Parish Records LDS Film # 0106192 1849-1883
Page 30 Number 59 August 14, 1850 Marriage solemnized in the parish church of malew in the Isle of Man. Married in the Parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the established church by me by license Wm Gale, vicar
James Quilliam Full age Bachelor stonemason/ Malew Street. Father's name Robert Quilliam, Farmer married Eleanor Clague full age spinster residence Parade, Castletown Father's name Thomas Clague, Mason.
Marriage solemnized between us James Quiilliam and Eleanor Clague in the presence of us, Edward Haworth and Margaret Maddrell.

And after the 1851 census:

1851 Census Isle of Man
As seen on Ancestry.com
Civil Parish Malew, Town, Castletown, source info HO 107/2526. Registration district IOM
E.D. 2b Folio 139 LDS Number 105992-105996
page 15
Household 62
39 Malew Street
Margaret Quilliam Head widow 63 Ag lab widow born Isle of Man, Castletown
James Quilliam son Mar 20 Marble Mason Isle of Man, do
Elenor Do dau-in-law Mar 21 Isle of Man, Santon

And after the birth of their first child March 24, 1852:
Film seen at Santa Rosa, CA FHC Jan or Feb 2006
LDS Film #0106193
Baptisms Solemnized in the chapel of St. Mary's in the Isle of Man Castletown in the year 1852
#264 Page 33
March 24
Ellen Jane daugh of James Quilliam / Stone cutter/ Castletown / by who ceremony performed:G.T. Parsons
mother "Elinor"

And Ancestral File does seem to pick up the same family in Carleton, Victoria, Australia as follows:
James QUILLIAM (AFN: 45TP-GC) Pedigree
Sex: M Family
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Event(s):
Birth: 1830
Christening: 28 Nov 1830
Malew, Castletown, Isle Of Man, United Kingdom
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Parents:
Father: Robert QUILLIAM (AFN: CK61-R8) Family
Mother: Margaret KELLY (AFN: CK61-SF)
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Marriage(s):
Spouse: Catherine Elenor CLAGUE (AFN: 45TP-HJ) Family
Marriage: 14 Aug 1850
Malew, Castletown, Isle Of Man, United Kingdom
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Submitter(s): Details
Submitter(s):
WARREN BRUCE TURNER Microfilm: 1394215
22 HODGES CRESENT
VINCENT 4814, QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA
*** ADDRESS OBSOLETE *** Submission: AF83-048654
Children
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1. Sex Name
F Ellen Jane QUILLIAM (AFN:45TQ-9M) Pedigree
Born: CIRCA 1852 Place:
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2. Sex Name
F Margaret Jane QUILLIAM (AFN:45TQ-BS) Pedigree
Born: CIRCA 1854 Place:
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3. Sex Name
M Robert QUILLIAM (AFN:45TQ-C0) Pedigree
Born: CIRCA 1856 Place:
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4. Sex Name
F QUILLIAM (AFN:45TQ-D5) Pedigree
Born: Abt. 1858 Place:
Died: DIED YOUNG Place:
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5. Sex Name
F Catherine QUILLIAM (AFN:45TP-9H) Pedigree
Born: 14 May 1859 Place: Carlton, Victoria, Australia
Died: Feb 1920 Place: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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But then Ancestral File goes seriously south! Ancestral File claims that James Quilliam's wife is as follows:
Wife's Name
Catherine Elenor CLAGUE (AFN:45TP-HJ) Pedigree
Born: 1824 Place:
Christened: 16 Oct 1824 Place: Malew, Castletown, Isle Of Man, United Kingdom
Married: 14 Aug 1850 Place: Malew, Castletown, Isle Of Man, United Kingdom

Father: Thomas CLAGUE (AFN:CK61-TL) Family
Mother: Ester CAIN(E) (AFN:CK61-VR)

My serious contention is that Catherine Elenor Clague instead, is the daughter of Thomas Clague and Eleanor Gelling.

Descendants of Thomas CLAGUE

1 Thomas CLAGUE 1786 - 1841
. +Eleanor GELLING 1787 - 1877
....... 2 Thomas CLAGUE 1808 - 1841
....... 2 John CLAGUE 1811 -
.......... +Catherine Jane GELLING 1810 - 1850
....... 2 Charlotte CLAGUE 1813 - 1855
.......... +John HUDGEON 1803 - 1860
....... 2 Robert CLAGUE 1816 - 1888
.......... +Catherine CLAGUE 1815 - 1887
....... 2 William CLEGG 1819 - 1891
.......... +Catherine CLAGUE 1820 - 1913
....... 2 Norris CLAGUE 1822 - 1871
.......... +Mary Jane PRICE 1828 -
....... 2 Caesar CLAGUE 1824 - 1874
.......... +Elizabeth KEWIN 1826 - 1891
....... 2 Mary Ann CLAGUE 1829 - 1879
.......... +John HUNTER 1826 - 1891
....... 2 Catherine Eleanor CLAGUE 1830 -
.......... +James Quilliam 1830 -

Her christening is as follows:
Santon Parish Records Notes taken April 23, 1881. LDS film number 106745 {maybe}
Catherine Elinore Dau. of Thos Clague and Elinore Gelling privately baptised this 23rd of December 1830. Received into the congregation.

Her 1841 census appearance as follows:
1841 Census E.D. 4, Rushen I.O.M. LDS Film #464357 Page 23/15 Ancestry indexes it at Sharlott Hudgen and Ellen Claque
Ballagawne
\John Hudgeon 35 Ag Lab
Charlotte 25
Ellen " 5
Jane " 1
Ellen Clague 10

This above census entry is for the home of Catherine Elenor Clague's sister. Her parents in 1841 are living in the parish of her birth as follows:

1841 Santon, IOM Census E.D. #1 Page 2 LDS # 464355
Grenna Mooar
Thomas Clague 55 Stonemason Born on the Island Y
Eleanor 50
Thomas 30 Ag Labourer
Norris 20 Mason's apprentice
Casar 15
Mary 10
(cont. on page 3)
Thomas Hudgeon 3
John Lowry 40 Painter and Glazer
Thomas Bridson 45 Mason Journeyman