in IoM FHS journal 15 #3 there is mention of Francis W Forrest born West Derby Liverpool 1856 son of James and Isabella Craine; married Mary Corrin, builder went bankrupt early 1900's (? Dumbell's bank collapse ) emigrated New Zealand 1907; but the sender had no info on the Forrest side though a sketchy tree of a couple of generations back on the Craine side